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I do not want to stir things up again just as they have started to settle. I do, however, want to pass on any information which should be read and considered. [livejournal.com profile] stewardess has posted an in-depth timeline of how things played out (according to her) behind the scenes over the past few weeks. She has not yet posted her sources, and she has asked that no one quote her, just link to her, until she confirms that her version is final.

Just as with any version of what happened / is happening, I take nothing on face value, nor ignore it outright. I do strongly suggest that you read her post and make up your own mind.

Date: 2007-06-02 03:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bittermint.livejournal.com
Thanks for the link!

Date: 2007-06-02 03:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] slb44.livejournal.com
Thank you so much for posting this link. I knew there was way more to this then what it seemed to be on the surface. The explanation, makes much more sense.

Date: 2007-06-02 03:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] darthfox.livejournal.com
Ahhhh, IPO. It's like a thing that goes 'click' -- and then a marble runs down a channel and makes a wheel turn and moves a lever that flips a catapult and releases a spring that springs the marble into a thimble full of water at the top of a stalk and then the whole thing falls down.

I think the investors will, at this point, be -- hmm. Cautious.

Date: 2007-06-02 03:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] umbo.livejournal.com
I'm feeling more than a bit, well, skeptical isn't quite the word, maybe uncomfortable is better. Because she hasn't cited her sources, and apparently one of them is this guy ([livejournal.com profile] littlegirllover), which, I don't know. Again, I'm not sure about any of it, or how much we should be relying on what little we do know about where she got the information.

Date: 2007-06-02 04:22 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] the-shoshanna.livejournal.com
Thank you for posting this.

Date: 2007-06-02 05:00 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] vass
I'm treating it as speculation, but speculation that makes sense. Fuck.

Date: 2007-06-02 05:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yahtzee63.livejournal.com
The part of this that doesn't make sense to me is the suggestion that Six Apart is holding a grudge against fandom now -- just after they were made aware of how much money they get from us and backed down to placate us. Six Apart seems to have gotten a big wake-up call about who they make cash from, and while I doubt they adore us at the moment, I doubt they want us to take off.

Date: 2007-06-02 05:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amireal.livejournal.com
I think she only got ONE piece of information from him and that was when LJ started prodding at him.

Date: 2007-06-02 05:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amireal.livejournal.com
I think it's the idea that we might be a cash cow, but they'd prefer us as silent, unseen, clean cash cows.

Which. Well, you can see a lot of problems with that.

Just think of the stereotype of the star trek fen.

Date: 2007-06-02 02:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] umbo.livejournal.com
Yeah, I got that from her reply to me, although I still don't think it's clear in the text of her post (even the revised one up at greatestjournal, although that one is more clearly written).

Date: 2007-06-02 02:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blktauna.livejournal.com
I think it's the idea that we might be a cash cow, but they'd prefer us as silent, unseen, clean cash cows.

Exactly. And we aren't. I can easily see them working to rid themselves of us so there aren't more 5000+ comment news threads.

Date: 2007-06-02 03:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] corinna-5.livejournal.com
I agree - in all honesty, based on what I know of the industry, the people they're most likely gonna be pissed off at are the volunteers at LJ Abuse. I know how much fun fandom has feeling persecuted, but I don't buy it.

BTW, LJ's public perception in the internet industry is "teenagers." I've shocked senior people at reputable firms by pointing them to the large sci-fi writer community here, or the indie musician community, because they didn't think LJ=fandom, they think LJ=kids posting about high school drama. I don't think one minor incident like this -- and it's still pretty minor -- is going to change that.

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