Substitute Teacher Praying Certification

[tzikeh]

Nowadays, a substitute teacher must be a certified teacher.

Apparently, they must also be church-going Christians.

Read the whole application.

I'm... pretty sure this isn't legal. Yet.

ETA: Got this from an atheism twitter; working on confirmation that it isn't a fake. I will update when/if I get more info. What frightens me is that I won't be surprised in the least that it's true.

Comments

[speaks.livejournal.com]

There is no way that is true except possibly for some Private Christian School. It would not surprise me that a group of evangelicals somewhere decided to form a private school and had such a thing, but it wouldn't fly in a public school

[yahtzee63.livejournal.com]

If this is a Christian private school, not a public school, this would be not only legal but also not uncommon.

[the-star-fish.livejournal.com]

Yeah, private schools can get away with a fair bit -- Pittsfield has a private Catholic high school that's not IN ANY WAY accessible - every entrance has flights of stairs going up and down, and there is no elevator. I guess good Catholics don't ever need wheelchairs or crutches ...

(I know this becasue they host a craft fair every fall, in which we usually are vendors. But every year we ask if the fucking stairs are worth it.)

[mirandir.livejournal.com]

I do love the "agree" or "agree with reservations" bit. Sheesh.

[terrie01.livejournal.com]

That's what I was thinking. And the Protestant schools are usually even more hard core about doctrine and statements of faith than the Catholic ones.

[castalianspring.livejournal.com]

Most public schools still take substitutes who aren't certified teachers. Or college graduates (seriously, you get paid more if you have a degree, but it's not a requirement). This is definitely private school stuff in the article.

[tzikeh.livejournal.com]

I don't think that's so true anymore--Chicago Public Schools require a full teaching certificate, and the rest of the state of Illinois requires completion of substitute teaching coursework and certification. 22 states require a bachelor's degree and certification of some form.

[castalianspring.livejournal.com]

I think my state's just desperate. Subs get paid very little and it's not always steady work, so it's hard to find good people to do it. I'm amazed any state can pick and choose like that.

[tzikeh.livejournal.com]

:nod: Many, if not most, schools in CPS have one or two "floating" subs; they're fully salaried with benefits and are sent wherever they're required for the day, week, month, etc. I know lots of school districts around the country do this (except places like California where they can't even buy textbooks at this point). Illinois is ranked #7 in the country for average teacher salary.Starting salary for a first-year teacher in CPS ranges from $43k-$48k (with bachelor's and certification). With a master's and certification, first-year ranges from $46k-$51k.

[castalianspring.livejournal.com]

Yeah, we had a few full time subs who were retired teachers. We suck at salaries down here, though. First years start out at only $28k.

*makes note to self to move to Illinois if the decision to teach ever comes up*

[ginamak.livejournal.com]

Pretty sure this would have to be for a private Christian school, and they can get away with that sort of nonsense.

[amilyn.livejournal.com]

This is clearly an application for subsitute/non-classroom employment at a conservative Christian private school. I've applied for such positions and worked at one of them, and they have every right, as an institution trying to be focused on creating an cushioned environment, to hire only those who fit into that bubble of their beliefs.

I mean, I read the Statement of Faith and this particular school/institution is one (I KNOW you) you wouldn't want to go NEAR anyone who even LIVES near these folks.

I mean...this is some of the stuff they believe...and they've cited it book, chapter, and verse, which means they're really into the scholarship and memorization: They believe in the Bible the word-for-word inerrantly FROM God and the ONLY way. They believe in the Rapture and the 1000-year-reign. They believe the "once saved, always saved" nonsense. They are not my people, as they believe that, while baptism must be done by immersion, one is not saved BY that act but is rather doing that act out of obedience and to SHOW that one has been magically saved by interaction with the Holy Spirit. They believe in "sober living" and would clearly fire people for fornication or adultery, drinking, possibly smoking, and financial irresponsibility (they want to do a financial check on people).

This is NOT a public school application, nor would it be legal ANYWHERE in this country to make it one. When I was first applying for jobs, a couple of the apps had an "attach photo here" thing...because the app was OLD...and this is not old. It's just for a private VERY VERY conservative Christian group.

[amilyn.livejournal.com]

But be careful re: Illinois; those numbers are only accurate in CHICAGO and the surrounding nearby (not many of the farther) suburbs. The first IL school where I taught was rural and in 1994-1996, the starting salary was 18,500 or 19,500 and the CEILING (after THIRTY full yearas and WITH a full Doctorage) was 36,600.

Here in Chicago, we're DAMNED lucky...and have fantastic benefits.

[castalianspring.livejournal.com]

Heh, thanks for the warning. Luckily, I'm not likely to move into that sort of teaching.

[jackiekjono.livejournal.com]

Credit checks aren't that uncommon. I think I had to have a couple of them for most of the jobs I've applied for.

I think it might be frowned upon, though, if there is no specific cash handling involved in the job.