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Glenn Beck defends the three-fifths clause.

See, the problem is, he's not right, he just sounds right. He's thrown a few facts into his insane, I-draw-my-conclusions-based-on-infrared-signals-from-the-planet-Xegacilat condescension, and it takes hours of surgically precise work to tease it all apart.

Despite my near-constant state of hyperbolicity (I made a new word!), there is a nigh-imperceptibly small number of people I truly hate--as in abhor their very existence so much that, if I were guaranteed to get away with it scot-free, I would have no moral qualms about killing them with my bare hands.

I'm just saying.

Date: 2009-12-16 05:38 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] brewsternorth.livejournal.com
This is the worst thing about politics-by-soundbite. If it sounds right, it *is* right. Even it it's wrong.

Date: 2009-12-16 05:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] principia-coh.livejournal.com
And giving voting rights only to white landowning males was defending the rights of everyone else in the country. And we were doing a favor to the Native Americans by moving them onto reservations.

EYE. F***ING. ROLL.

Date: 2009-12-16 05:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] movies-michelle.livejournal.com

I'm kind of flabbergasted not by his reinterpretation of the founding fathers' motivations, not just because he's inferring what they intended, but the fact that he is actually changing who the founding fathers were. By his interpretations, only the anti-slavery guys involved with the setting up of the country were actually founding fathers. Those others (i.e., over half the continental congress) were just guys hanging around with their slaves being evil.

Yeah.

Date: 2009-12-16 05:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tzikeh.livejournal.com
And giving voting rights only to white landowning males was defending the rights of everyone else in the country.

What's good for General Motors is good for America!

Date: 2009-12-16 05:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tzikeh.livejournal.com
Facts? Eh, too much time taken away from ads for Viagra.

Date: 2009-12-16 06:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elynross.livejournal.com
I would provide you with an alibi. I'm just saying.

Date: 2009-12-16 06:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] movies-michelle.livejournal.com

I was reading your lj when Geekboy came up, and I just said, "Glenn Beck ha an interesting interpretation of reality." He's thinking GB is either insincere and putting everyone on or entirely insane.

I'm not sure which I believe. I maintain the "interesting interpretation of reality," in either case. O'Reilly I think is complete sincere, which is kind of sad since he's such an angry guy; I want to give him a sno cone to cheer him up or something. GB is just so...earnest. And crazy.

Date: 2009-12-16 06:37 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] lamardeuse.livejournal.com
Um. The kind of bizarrely sick thing is that he's not completely wrong, just about 95% wrong. He's wrong in that the North, not the South was the side originally pushing for greater representation for African Americans (so that the population numbers would be jacked up for the South and they would pay more taxes, not because they wanted to end slavery), but the numbers ended up giving the South a disproportionate representation in Congress (since that was also based on population). So it did help the South in terms of political power, but they weren't the ones pushing for it originally, and nobody was talking about ending slavery.

In conclusion: Glenn Beck is still an asshat.

Date: 2009-12-16 06:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tzikeh.livejournal.com
The kind of bizarrely sick thing is that he's not completely wrong, just about 95% wrong.

Well, that's what I said - he takes a few facts, and then makes an eye-crossing wtf of it with his, uh, "brain."

Date: 2009-12-16 06:40 pm (UTC)

Date: 2009-12-16 06:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tzikeh.livejournal.com
just guys hanging around with their slaves being evil.

There is something giggle-inducing about that phrase beyond the obvious. I'm still trying to parse how it works.

Yeah, his grip on the facts=tenuous.

Date: 2009-12-16 06:52 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] klia.livejournal.com
Wow, what a fucktard. Between him, RL, and BO'R, the amount of bullshit being broadcast as truth is truly frightening. Also disturbing is how many of his ignorant minions will go around parroting his revisionist history to everyone they know. GAH.

Date: 2009-12-16 06:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] movies-michelle.livejournal.com

I'm now picturing some sort of strange Dr. Horrible/1776 crossover sequel/prequel, where George Washington rides in on Bad Horse, is electrified by Franklin's miraculous lightning rod (in two-part harmony), thereby making Bad Horse IMMORTAL!

And then they hang around owning slaves and being evil.

Date: 2009-12-16 07:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tzikeh.livejournal.com
I hate you. A lot. I hate you a lot.

Date: 2009-12-16 07:09 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] lamardeuse.livejournal.com
...his, uh, "brain."

Ahahaha! :)

Date: 2009-12-16 07:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] danielleleigh.livejournal.com
I'm also horrified by some of the comments in the post -- whatever the "intent," (i.e. limiting Southern Political power versus expanding it), there are people who were not being counted AS PEOPLE. Who gives a fuck if they were counted as ANYTHING considering that they were still slaves and, therefore, denied protection / personhood under the constitution and in reality?

Blerg. So gross.

Date: 2009-12-16 09:07 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] luminosity
I'd be willing to cover for you. Also? I have a reservoir full of alligators just 50 feet away.

What a nincowpoop! What an ultramaroon.

Date: 2009-12-16 09:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mirandir.livejournal.com
"That’s why," he continued "in the Constitution, African-Americans were deemed three-fifths people, because the Founders wanted to end slavery and they knew if the South could count slaves as full individuals you would never get the control to be able to abolish it." (from the link)

I... think I just went cross-eyed.

Date: 2009-12-16 09:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amireal.livejournal.com
Glenn Beck can take his historical context and shove it up his ass. Power vs. Money. At no point did anyone care about ending slavery or proving slaves were fully capable human beings deserving of rights. Motivations behind the 3/5ths clause don't change the fact that any part of the negotiations for it had anything to do with wanting to grant actual human rights. You know, for the sake of goodness and shit like that.

Date: 2009-12-16 10:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ealgylden.livejournal.com
I want this. I want this so much.

Date: 2009-12-16 10:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] movies-michelle.livejournal.com

I'll have to see if there's something analogous to do a Yuletide stocking-stuffer. *g*

Date: 2009-12-16 10:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kadymae.livejournal.com
Look, so long as I can piss on the corpse, it's all good.

Date: 2009-12-17 12:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misachan.livejournal.com
This is where Fake Thomas Jefferson is from! EVERYTHING MAKES SENSE NOW!

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