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My roommate [livejournal.com profile] shrift is not exactly a fan of musicals. In fact, it's the #1 way she differentiates herself from [livejournal.com profile] nestra.

But.


[livejournal.com profile] tzikeh: NESTRA - we have a MISSION
[livejournal.com profile] nestra: Okay...
tzikeh: [livejournal.com profile] shrift *actually said*, OUT LOUD, last night - "I should really sit down one day and watch the good musicals."
tzikeh: We must make a LIST.
nestra: Oh, god.
tzikeh: I KNOW!
nestra: Little does she know.
tzikeh: What happened was Victor/Victoria was on tv, she was in the kitchen and I was flipping channels and stopped there because, hey, Victor/Victoria. We were laughing because it's FUCKING FUNNY
nestra: I WAS WATCHING THAT TOO!
tzikeh: IT'S FATE!
tzikeh: And we talked about how if they remade it today, King would *not* find out she was a woman before he said "I don't care if you are a man" and kissed her.
nestra: That could be totally hot. ahem.
tzikeh: YES IT WOULD BE HOT
tzikeh: I said "I guess this is a musical you can take because all the singing is in a show, and not part of the movie." and she said, probably.
tzikeh: anyway, so - late last night just as she was going to bed, I was watching Pirates of Penzance because TiVo brought it to me and I haven't seen it in a great while.
nestra: Pirates!
tzikeh: And she was in the living room briefly and I said hey - you should watch just a little of this - it's Kevin Kline in thigh-high leather boots. and she said "... okay!" so I just showed her the Pirate King number. And then she uttered those words. Those words we never thought we'd hear.
tzikeh: we're on a mission from God, nestra.
nestra: Until she flees the apartment and never comes back.
nestra: "What happened?" "Musicals."
tzikeh: BWAH
tzikeh: but seriously - Victor/Victoria was 1982? 25 years ago. We can remake it! and this time we can cast a woman one might *possibly* believe is a man. Which is really the only drawback of the film. Because, dude. Just... no.
nestra: Heh. That was my husband's comment.
nestra: She will have to watch Music Man at some point so she can beta my probably-will-never-be-written SGA Music Man story.
tzikeh: ...
tzikeh: see, now I'm inclined to bar her from ever watching Music Man.
nestra: It would be BRILLIANT. John Sheppard, confidence man.
tzikeh: tell me Rodney is the librarian. go ahead - tell me
nestra: Rodney McKay, brilliant but bitter librarian who had to stay behind in this STUPID small town to take care of his sister.
tzikeh: *cries*
nestra: AWESOME, I tell you. The think system!
tzikeh: ...
nestra: Rodney teaches piano in his spare time, of course.
tzikeh: GARY underwater Gary UNDERwater Gary underwater let me say it once again....
tzikeh: I think we should really start her off with shit she'll dig - like killer cannibal barbers and their cannibal slut neighbors.
nestra: I said eventually. She doesn't have to watch it first.
tzikeh: I was also thinking stuff with people she is familiar with, so I'm browsing about for that too
nestra: Singing in the Rain.
tzikeh: well, NATURALLY
tzikeh: Is it possible she really hasn't seen that?
nestra: You can ask, but you may not like the answer.
tzikeh: Mocking shrift is fun.
nestra: Although mocking her for not having seen musicals...we're sort of a few notches down the cool scale there.
tzikeh: Fine. Shrift is inarguably cooler than us. But we know all of the colors in Joseph's coat, which is a GREAT PARTY TRICK.
nestra: Still not helping on the cool scale, though. *g*
tzikeh: Pfft. Details.

Date: 2007-01-30 08:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] annezo.livejournal.com
Please, please, please write the Music Man story for me!

Gary UNDERwater.... I must have you it!

Date: 2007-01-30 08:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tzikeh.livejournal.com
*cries*

Go bother [livejournal.com profile] nestra for the story. Me, I just sit here and make up lyrics. But, with any luck, the two of us will unite and brainwash indoctrinate show [livejournal.com profile] shrift the magic of musicals.

Some musicals, anyway. ;)

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Date: 2007-01-30 08:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] laurashapiro.livejournal.com
I recommend Cabaret for the musical-shy, since, like Victor/Victoria, all the music happens in the nightclub, and there isn't any of that spontaneous bursting into song that gives musicals a bad name. Well, except for that one number. (: Plus! Hot three-way action!

Date: 2007-01-30 08:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tzikeh.livejournal.com
:) Cabaret is not a bad idea. Luckily I also have a source in New York who gets Broadway bootlegs, so I'm hoping a great copy of Avenue Q might show up. Even [livejournal.com profile] shrift won't be able to resist a musical that features full-frontal puppet sex.

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Is there a t-shirt for being uncool????

Date: 2007-01-30 08:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] way2busymom.livejournal.com
I totally mock friends for not knowing musicals. Or for not having seen certain movies.

Just ask [livejournal.com profile] crazywritinfool

:-D

*wears uncool badge proudly*

Re: Is there a t-shirt for being uncool????

Date: 2007-01-30 08:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tzikeh.livejournal.com
Yay! We totally need a t-shirt.

Date: 2007-01-30 08:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tjonesy.livejournal.com
If you do not pimp Singing in the Rain to her, I will have to come over there and kill you myself.

Date: 2007-01-30 08:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tzikeh.livejournal.com
Promise? Oh noes!

Date: 2007-01-30 08:58 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] luminosity
There are some musicals that she has to see, because any well-rounded, chain-smoking punk (see? I read) needs to know them. Singin' in the Rain is #1. Then there's the entire ouevre of Rodgers & Hammerstein, and then the goofy stuff like Spam! and the Hugh Jackman catalog. The classy stuff, too, like American in Paris.

[makes own list]

Date: 2007-01-30 09:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tzikeh.livejournal.com
Yay! Though I refuse to show her Carousel, even though the score is one of the most gorgeous on Earth, on the grounds that it quite literally advocates beating women and children.

People who tell me how much they love Carousel get my one-minute venom-filled description of it, and either a) completely change their minds or b) back away from me in terror.

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p.s.

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Date: 2007-01-30 09:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vonnie-k.livejournal.com
Guys and Dolls!

If she doesn't get the hots for the young Marlon Brando playing Sky Masterson, that's not the shrift I know.

Date: 2007-02-01 01:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tzikeh.livejournal.com
Hm - I don't know. Brando was hot, but *so* miscast. Eh; it's a toss-up. :)

Date: 2007-01-30 09:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kassrachel.livejournal.com
But we know all of the colors in Joseph's coat, which is a GREAT PARTY TRICK.

I adore both of you wildly. You are made of awesome.

Date: 2007-02-01 01:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tzikeh.livejournal.com
I wonder if his coat was made of awesome. Or was it made of AMAZING.

Date: 2007-01-30 09:35 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] wiliqueen.livejournal.com
We can remake it! and this time we can cast a woman one might *possibly* believe is a man. Which is really the only drawback of the film. Because, dude. Just... no.

Please do! I'm still trying to recover from the concept of RAQUEL BLOODY WELCH doing the tour...

Date: 2007-02-01 01:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tzikeh.livejournal.com
Oh, honey - why did you go? Why didn't you protect yourself from Teh Bad?

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Date: 2007-01-30 09:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] movies-michelle.livejournal.com

Into the Woods, man! I know [livejournal.com profile] feochadn doesn't like movie musicals, but does like stage musicals and is good with filmed-stage-musicals, so maybe they would work for her.

I haven't watched Singin' in the Rain in too long.

Date: 2007-02-01 01:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tzikeh.livejournal.com
Yeah, I'm thinking totally Into the Woods. It's basically fanfiction a la Sondheim.

Date: 2007-01-30 10:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] corinna-5.livejournal.com
Nestra has NO EXCUSE for not writing this story, because I already WROTE her the Murphy Brown/SGA crossover fic. *cries*

Date: 2007-01-30 10:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nestra.livejournal.com
I know, you're right, I have no excuse.

*hides*

Date: 2007-01-30 10:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bethbethbeth.livejournal.com
So...has she not even seen the Rocky Horror Picture Show? Because...transexuals from Transylvania!!

La Cage Aux Follles? Little Shop of Horrors? Rent?

Or what about Sweeney Todd (because, hey...what's cooler than cannibalism *g*)

signed, also hates Carousel.

Date: 2007-01-30 10:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nestra.livejournal.com
I'd be willing to bet she's seen RHPS.

Date: 2007-01-30 10:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] roga.livejournal.com
Singing in the Rain and Into The Woods, definitely. And Hair. And if you can get your hands on it, Hugh Jackman's stage version of Oklahoma! And anything Julie Andrews.

Date: 2007-02-01 01:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tzikeh.livejournal.com
I have Hugh Jackman's Oklahoma! - in fact, I have two copies. And, as much as *I* love Julie Andrews, I think [livejournal.com profile] shrift would slice my throat open if I asked her to sit through The Sound of Music.

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Date: 2007-01-30 11:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tv-elf.livejournal.com
Hmmm, you could really mess with her mind with All that Jazz... But, yes no Carousel.

Date: 2007-02-01 01:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tzikeh.livejournal.com
Oh, All That Jazz is *totally* on the list. I don't think it messes with anyone's mind; I just think it's made of awesome.

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Date: 2007-01-31 12:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shrift.livejournal.com
I hate you both.

And of course I've seen Singing in the Rain.

Date: 2007-02-01 01:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tzikeh.livejournal.com
I hate you both.

Probably because we're both musicals.

Date: 2007-01-31 12:55 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] emyrys.livejournal.com
We sang "When you walk through a storm" in school choir, and I loved it, and I was a walk on in the high school production when I was in grade school (one of the Snow children), so I always had such fond thoughts about Carousel. Then I grew up, and watched it from beginning to end. Once. *sigh* Such great songs. Such a horrid message! Ditto for Oliver.

I was going to suggest All That Jazz -- but I see someone beat me to it.

PS. You are going to at least show her highlights from 1776, yes? Too bad there's no good movie version of A Little Night Music -- such a great score. Such a dead/boring movie version with Elizabeth Taylor.

Date: 2007-02-01 01:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tzikeh.livejournal.com
I'm thinking definitely 1776, because it's fanfiction with music.
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From: [personal profile] vass
Calamity Jane. Much better if you approach it as a queer text rather than as a musical.
*hums 'A Woman's Touch'*

Bombarding her with Cole Porter songs (not the whole musicals, just songs, the smuttier the better) may help soften her up and sap her resistance.

Possibly Kiss Me Kate. I'm not sure if it'd help or be the last straw.

A Little Night Music has plenty of complicated human relationships. And gorgeous music. I agree that Sweeney Todd would be a better place to start, but ALNM is my favourite so I have to pimp it.

Chicago. Definitely.

Oliver! for watching with a critical eye as to just how fucked up and wrong it is. Particularly the boys' interactions with Fagin and Nancy's interactions with Sykes. 'I'll Do Anything' and 'As Long As He Needs Me' should give people nightmares. If it's heartwarming, you're watching a different musical.

The movie The Tall Guy, which isn't a musical but is about an actor who gets cast as the lead in a musical adaptation of The Elephant Man. Contains discussion of a projected musical adaptation of Richard III, with the unforgettable hit song 'I've Got A Hunch I'm Gonna Be King'.
From: [identity profile] tzikeh.livejournal.com
Was it more of a book number or a breakaway pop hit?

ANYA!

I don't know - ALNM sucks (the movie) so really not a good way to make someone *want* to see musicals.

Kiss Me Kate is... except for the dance number Fosse choreographed and stars in, too old-school, I think. (The movie, not the musical itself. That's part of why this is so hard - if only we could bring stage musicals to her.)

Oliver is okay, but me personally, I'm not that big a fan of the music or lyrics.

And The Tall Guy - man, I'd show her that just to show her that, Elephant! or no.

::hums "He's Packing His Trunk"::

Date: 2007-01-31 01:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lumenara.livejournal.com
Hedwig and the Angry Inch, perhaps?

Date: 2007-02-01 01:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tzikeh.livejournal.com
Mmmm... things like Hewig and RHPS aren't really what we're going for - they're not "musicals" in the classic sense. I mean, we could include Velvet Goldmine if that was what we were on about, but it's really more the Broadway-type musicals we're looking for.

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