It's past time to cut through this fucking buillshit.

[tzikeh]

I have stayed out of the OTW insanity since it began. I didn't even know how to begin to talk about it, and I didn't want to wade in while things were shaking out, and I didn't want to read things that were going to make me angry, because I knew it would just cause me impotent rage, since there was nothing I would be able to do.



I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH PEOPLE WHO DON'T LIKE/DON'T WANT TO PARTICIPATE IN THE OTW IF THEIR PHILOSOPHIES ARE IN DIRECT CONFLICT (bolded now for those who fail at reading comprehension and think I'm defending OTW, instead of what I'm actually doing, which is bitching about people who hide their identities so that they can say nasty things about OTW), but I am so done with people who are against the OTW with absolutely no facts to back up their opposition. They are the Teabagging Party when it comes to OTW: frothing at the mouth with blind hatred, but they have absolutely no fucking facts and they just believe whatever their mental, seething leaders say without bothering with critical thought, or fact-finding of their own.

In case anyone reading this thinks that I'm somehow part of the OTW "machine," let me be crystal clear. I have no part in OTW. I'm not on the board, I'm not a beta-tester, I'm not a coder, I'm not part of the PR department, I'm not anything at all when it comes to the project. But I am DONE with this fucking insane bullshit Teabagger-mentality ignorance that has spread through some sections of fandom that are just spoiling for a fight with the OTW, because they've heard from someone who knows someone who said something they didn't like.

I have fucking HAD IT.

Whiny, shitty fucks who bitch about the OTW, but create sock-puppet accounts to do it so no one who knows them will know it was *them*, can shove it up their own asses. Cowards. Bullies. Those of you who have a beef with the OTW and have created sock-puppet accounts just to write about it? Show your faces, you craven pieces of shit. How dare you hide so that nobody who knows you finds out what you think. Afraid of conflict with people you know? Coward. You want to dish it out while not having to own it. Put up or shut up.

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

The only person I see frothing at the mouth is you. Have fun getting laughed at by the Fandom Wank crowd.

Also, I don't fucking care what you think of "sock-puppets" and zomganons. You shut up or put up, you sorry excuse of a fertilized embryo.

[tzikeh.livejournal.com]

The overwhelming majority of the discussion at fandom_wank, which you'd know if you'd actually read through it, is not remotely about me.

I'm really curious as to what you mean by "You shut up or put up," since I am doing exactly that -- saying exactly what I think, complete with as much anger as I feel, right here in my livejournal. This way, every single person who happens to read my lj knows it's me saying these things, for good or for ill. Unlike you, who apparently wouldn't dare say what you're saying here while using your livejournal name.

It's hilarious that you're telling me to "shut up or put up" (good job getting that backwards) completely anonymously--the hypocrisy is mind-boggling. I dare you to own up to this comment while logged in with your *real* livejournal name. The one the people on your friendslist will recognize. You won't, because you are a fucking coward.

[lydiabell.livejournal.com]

I don't fucking care what you think of "sock-puppets" and zomganons.

You don't care so much that you came here to read her post and tell her how much you don't care.

Also, Jesus Christ, at least get your biology right.

[(Anonymous)]

It's saying a lot that defenders of OTW need to resort to new equivalents of Godwin.

Teabaggers, lol.

You know why I don't like OTW? Crazypants defenders. If everyone defending OTW is this crazy, OTW can't be a good thing.

[lemonsherry.livejournal.com]

Have you not seen the infinitely more crazypants opposers of OTW?

[(Anonymous)]

If everyone defending ____ is this crazy, ____ can't be a good thing.

Fill in the blanks!

A. The Bible
B. Motherhood
C. Apple
D. Microsoft
E. World Peace

A statement so versatile, it must be true.

[tree]

it's like a carnival ride! "you must be THIS CRAZY <----------> to defend the OTW."

[liviapenn.livejournal.com]

Man, if I got turned off of things because they had crazypants defenders, I would have a really hard time being in fandom. ^_^

[slashpine.livejournal.com]

I *so* agree with this comment! :D

[tree]

i actually thought it was a requirement of fandom. *coff*

[tzikeh.livejournal.com]

Perhaps a little remedial reading comprehension is in order.

I have no problem with people who don't like/don't want to participate in the OTW if their philosophies are in direct conflict

Right there, first sentence, second paragraph.

Apparently you didn't READ the post, which is not about the OTW at all, but rather about people--just like you, funnily enough--who aren't willing to post their complaints about the OTW with their own lj identities. They're hiding so they can say whatever they like without fear of having to own what they say.

Also, you often punctuate your "comebacks" with "lol."

I repeat -- you're a coward.

here from metafandom

[lemonsherry.livejournal.com]

I've seriously been trying to figure out what the blind hatred aimed against OT3 is originally stemming from, and I finally came to the conclusion that it's essentially the whole fandom secret cabal syndrome.

Most of the people irrationally opposing it seem to be hellbent on not liking anything that a particular group of people created, because it obviously means they're all BNF's and all part of a secret club and special snowflakes weren't specially invited and its just like high school and it all just ends up being hilariously funny to me.

I can understand how those who've actually invested their time in working on this whole project would be made angry/hurt by all the rampant psycho posturing though, and that definitely makes me frownface.

Re: here from metafandom

[lemonsherry.livejournal.com]

*OTW

[(Anonymous)]

They are the Teabagging Party when it comes to OTW: frothing at the mouth with blind hatred, but they have absolutely no fucking facts and they just believe whatever their mental, seething leaders say without bothering with critical thought, or fact-finding of their own.

And...I stopped reading right there because it would be pointless to pursue as you've made up your mind regarding those who may have different opinions.

- Sorry, not logging in because it's an "internet handle" anyway.

[(Anonymous)]

I have no problem with people who don't like/don't want to participate in the OTW if their philosophies are in direct conflict

[juliansinger.livejournal.com]

Wow, blink still works?

[slashpine.livejournal.com]

HEE. Nice blinky! *blinks*

and I am so glad I don't get seizures. *reminds self not to use blink*

[cereta.livejournal.com]

- Sorry, not logging in because it's an "internet handle" anyway.

I've had my internet handle longer than I've had my current legal name. There are now approximately 13 years of writing, behavior, and general opinion accrued to it just in fandom. Try again, or own that you're a fucking coward who wants to spew shit without having it splash on your pants.

[lexin.livejournal.com]

Or someone would recognise you under the name you normally use and call you out on it. Bzzzt! Try again.

[tzikeh.livejournal.com]

...aaaaaaand again, pointing to the big fat bolded part of the post: I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH PEOPLE WHO DON'T LIKE/DON'T WANT TO PARTICIPATE IN THE OTW IF THEIR PHILOSOPHIES ARE IN DIRECT CONFLICT. In other words: if you have a different opinion, that's what makes the world go 'round.

Those folks are not remotely the same as those to whom I am referring when I say "Teabagging Party."

- Sorry, not logging in because it's an "internet handle" anyway.

:sigh:

Yes. We all have internet handles. But your internet handle is how everyone who knows you via livejournal will recognize you. By not logging in, you are hiding who you are from people who "know" you, so that they will never call you on it. Coward.

[(Anonymous)]

i'm glad that the only people who can contribute to this discussion (if you can call you and your friends dogpiling all dissenters a discussion - how strange that so few people are deciding to engage with you!) are people who have lj accounts

because obviously the only reason someone wouldn't have an lj account is because they're a troll

obviously

[cereta.livejournal.com]

Sorry, not logging in because it's an "internet handle" anyway

...would seem to dispute this interpretation. However, something is preventing you from signing your name/ID/handle?

[tzikeh.livejournal.com]

Hi - if you look up, there are people without lj accounts who are signing their name to their comments.

Welcome to identifying yourself. Please keep your brains inside the ride at all times.