and even OTW members agree that some of the defenders are as crazypants as the attackers - or worse. "
I must admit that I'm genuinely bewildered by your description of 'badgering' and crazypants defenders -- I'm not sure if I'm being wilfully blind, but I honestly cannot recall any crazy OTW rallying troups. (Or it shows how different fannish circles can be -- not everyone on my flist/circle is an OTW supporter, and that's just fine by me.)
[...wait, okay, I just remembered something/someone, but -- that is definitely the exception.]
If the people who are leading it don't structure the message to be delivered in a reasonable and respectful way...
My impression in the couple of OTW wanks that I witnessed (I wasn't around for much of the initial period, I came on board early 2008) was more that people are very ready to interpret the message the way they want to interpret it, no matter how reasonable or disclaimer-laden it may be. Often, there is zero benefit of the doubt before people cry "murder!".
If the people who are leading it don't structure the message to be delivered in a reasonable and respectful way
well, I think we disagree here. I don't think the task of the org is to school or censor members or supporters. The org's task is to improve its official, external communication. Individual fen have a right to individual expression and optinion, and that's that. If people are not able and/or willing to distinguish between official OTW response and completeley non-repesentative, individual opinions... *throws up hands*
I'm not saying OTW communication is stellar (hee. I have my own issues with it, but do think it's been improving dramatically, especially on the AO3 front), but I must admit that yeah, I am exasperated when misinformation is deliberately spread again and again when the actual info is right there for everyone to see and disagree with and ask questions about.(having helped translate most of it, I am pretty familiar with the entire OTW FAQ, so...)
anyway, I'm not purposefully trying to be contrary here -- I do want to thank you for your candidness, I appreciate it!
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Date: 2010-01-08 11:26 pm (UTC)I must admit that I'm genuinely bewildered by your description of 'badgering' and crazypants defenders -- I'm not sure if I'm being wilfully blind, but I honestly cannot recall any crazy OTW rallying troups. (Or it shows how different fannish circles can be -- not everyone on my flist/circle is an OTW supporter, and that's just fine by me.)
[...wait, okay, I just remembered something/someone, but -- that is definitely the exception.]
If the people who are leading it don't structure the message to be delivered in a reasonable and respectful way...
My impression in the couple of OTW wanks that I witnessed (I wasn't around for much of the initial period, I came on board early 2008) was more that people are very ready to interpret the message the way they want to interpret it, no matter how reasonable or disclaimer-laden it may be. Often, there is zero benefit of the doubt before people cry "murder!".
If the people who are leading it don't structure the message to be delivered in a reasonable and respectful way
well, I think we disagree here. I don't think the task of the org is to school or censor members or supporters. The org's task is to improve its official, external communication. Individual fen have a right to individual expression and optinion, and that's that. If people are not able and/or willing to distinguish between official OTW response and completeley non-repesentative, individual opinions... *throws up hands*
I'm not saying OTW communication is stellar (hee. I have my own issues with it, but do think it's been improving dramatically, especially on the AO3 front), but I must admit that yeah, I am exasperated when misinformation is deliberately spread again and again when the actual info is right there for everyone to see and disagree with and ask questions about.(having helped translate most of it, I am pretty familiar with the entire OTW FAQ, so...)
anyway, I'm not purposefully trying to be contrary here -- I do want to thank you for your candidness, I appreciate it!