Razing my dreamwidth journal to the ground and starting over

[tzikeh]

N.B.: If you want to comment on this entry, please do so at my lj account (shockingly named "tzikeh").

Dear everyone who follows me on Dreamwidth, or on lj but is planning to follow me on Dreamwidth once I get my act together over here (there):

I am going to start pretty much from scratch--which means I'm going to delete *absolutely everything* from my circle: access, subscriptions, etc, -- both from my end, and of anyone who is subscribed or has access to my dw account.

THIS IS NOT PERSONAL. This is across the board.

I really feel that I have to dig into dw, and learn a lot about it, before I feel comfortable with the whole "wtf is access vs subscribing vs what-the-fuck-ever" stuff, along with many other things.

When I feel relatively settled here (there), I will post a kind of "open for business" entry, asking and inviting people to subscribe/access/wtf-ever that I don't understand yet. One thing I will beg of you WHEN I PUT UP THE "OPEN FOR BUSINESS" POST--NOT NOW, PLEASE is that you email me and say "I have just subscribed to you on dreamwidth; I am so-and-so on livejournal," because one of the myriad reasons I'm doing this is that I have no fucking idea who half of you are, and I *bet* I know you on lj.

Again, this is a complete re-boot, and is not personal at all. Feel free to un-access me (or whatever the whole thing is) while this is going on. As I say, there will be some kind of "HI OKAY READY TO ATTEMPT THIS NOW" post--I hope sooner rather than later.

Please note my icon, and pardon our dust as we remodel.

(If I've done this correctly, this will cross-post to lj.)

(I'd love to learn if you can disallow comments on a dw entry while allowing comments on the lj crosspost.)

(Also I have no idea how to do the "this was posted at dreamwidth; comment there if you like"--and I also don't know if removing everyone's access means they *can't* comment at dw. I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING.)

N.B.: If you want to comment on this entry, please do so at my lj account (shockingly named "tzikeh").

Comments

[ilyena_sylph]

I'm me, same as ever.

Do you want any kind of assistance/advice from those of us who treat DW as our primary home, or do you want ppl (aka me) to go away and let you handle things?

[tzikeh]

I'm me, same as ever.

You'll have to do this again when I say "open for business," because that's when I'll be able to handle all that info.

Do you want any kind of assistance/advice from those of us who treat DW as our primary home

Not at the moment, though that may come. :D

[brewsternorth]

http://www.dreamwidth.org/manage/settings/?cat=othersites and "Add Footer".

I know you can disable comments on LJ if you've got them on DWth; I don't *think* you can wangle it the other way around.

[deird1]

I have no idea how to do the "this was posted at dreamwidth; comment there if you like"

Fairly simple - it's on the "other sites" bit of manage accounts. Here.

It gives the option of a "footer" on crossposts, which is where you can make those bits.

[quinfirefrorefiddle]

And if we don't exist on LJ? (Well, there's a whole metaphysical debate in that comment, but let's not go there.)

[tzikeh]

Two ways:

1) Comment anonymously, and put your dw name in the comment.

2) click on the "anonymous" drop-down menu above the reply text box (directly to the right of "from"), choose "OpenID," and put in quinfirefrorefiddle.dreamwidth.org.

[hubbit]

...and I also don't know if removing everyone's access means they *can't* comment at dw.

Only one way to find out.

[morgandawn]

who are you again? I am certain I've run across (your foot) before. let me know as soon as you are in wheelchair range again.

[kassrachel.livejournal.com]

You've already figured this out, but I'll say it anyway -- I'm "kass" on dreamwidth (which is the username I originally wanted here on lj, but it had already been taken when I got here. :-)

Here's how I handle "access" and "subscriptions," fwiw:

- if I encounter a journal of someone who seems interesting, and I want to read them, but I don't yet know if I want them to be able to read my protected posts, I subscribe to that journal

- if I encounter someone who I know I do want to be able to read my protected posts, I grant access to that person

- most of the people in my dw circle are people to whom I have subscribed (I want to read them) and given access (I want them to be able to read my friendslocked posts), though there are some who are only in one category or only in the other

- and I have a couple of posting filters which I use for posting things which either aren't interesting to everyone (about parenting, e.g.) or aren't things I want everyone to see (RL professional whatnot, e.g.) -- and I maintain the same filter names on lj and on dw, so when I make a filtered post on dw and click the tickybox which has the name of the filter, the post is locked to the filter of that name on both services

- to do the "this was posted at dreamwidth comment there if you like" thing, go to account settings (http://www.dreamwidth.org/manage/settings/) and choose the "other sites" tab, and at the bottom of that screen there's a place where you can put text for a footer on your posts.

[ramblinsuze.livejournal.com]

When you figure it out will you let me know? I don't know anything about anything over there. I'm trying to get my LJ backed up over there, but they seem to be pretty swamped with recent refugees. ;)

Anyways, I'm "auntiesuze" over there. :)

[isabeau.livejournal.com]

Rather amusingly, I had you friended on DW but not on LJ. Not sure how that happened, but I have rectified that :)

Regarding disabling comments on DW but not LJ: Edit the entry on the DW side and disable comments for that entry, letting it crosspost. Then edit the LJ version of the entry and re-enable crossposts. LJ doesn't share with DW the same way DW does with LJ, so the comment change won't propogate backwards, and as long as you don't edit the DW entry again you'll be fine.

Also, while I haven't tested it, it's possible that you could disable comments globally for your DW and not have to tweak individual entries, but I honestly don't know if that would work. (I don't know whether setting your DW to block comments would mean that it would broadcast crossposted entries with individual no-comment settings or not.)

Also also, removing peoples' access won't keep them from commenting unless a) it's an access-locked entry, or b) you've set your DW so that only people with access can comment.

Also also also, I can see you've gotten answers about how to get the "this was posted at dw" thing, but if you have /any/ questions, about what I've said or about DW or anything, feel free to ask. :)

-isabeau, aka ysobel on dw

[devohoneybee.livejournal.com]

i'm devohoneybee in both places.

[lydiabell (from livejournal.com)]

testing

[hubbit.livejournal.com]

The Dreamwidth system is more similar to Twitter than it is to LJ.

On LJ, if you add someone to your friends list, you can read their public entries on your friends page, but they can read your public AND friends-locked entries. You can't read their friends-locked entries unless they also add you as a friend.

Dreamwidth splits this. Subscribing on DW enables you to read their public posts, but they can't read your friends-only posts. That only comes with granting access, which is a separate function.

Subscribing is like following on Twitter, while granting access is like approving someone to follow you on Twitter when your account is protected.

I don't know if you can grant access to someone without subscribing to them, but I'll bet it's possible. That way, someone you trust with protected content can read yours, but you won't be subjected to all their blather if they happen to drone on and on without making a real point.

Removing access should not disable comments, unless you have your comments set so that only people to whom you've granted access can comment. LJ has a setting wherein anon comments and comments from non-friends can be disallowed. DW probably has something similar, but I don't know.

[giglet.livejournal.com]

I don't know if you can grant access to someone without subscribing to them,

Yes, you can.

[deejay.livejournal.com]

DW is ... umm ... yeah ... uncomfortable. *nods*

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[tzikeh.livejournal.com]

Oh, I don't find it uncomfortable at all--I just need to learn how it works before I full transfer over there. Right now I'm just occasionally uploading my lj entries, when what I want to do is use dw as my primary journal, and x-post everything over here.

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[stevenglassman.livejournal.com]

I do the reverse and back everything up over there with LJ as primary- I tried using DW as primary with xposting to here briefly, and I kinda hated it. Everyone I read is over here, for the most part. I'm hoping that I can figure out a way to read your DW posts from this side, because I'm much more comfortable on the LJ side.

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[tzikeh.livejournal.com]

Oh, anything I post at dw will automatically crosspost to here; I have that set up. So my posts will always appear here.

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[stevenglassman.livejournal.com]

Oh, good. That makes it much easier. Will you continue reading LJ when you move over there?

If I could get LJ posts to automatically crosspost over there, this would not even be an issue. Harumph.

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[tzikeh.livejournal.com]

oh yes, I'll be reading lj just as always.

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[stevenglassman.livejournal.com]

Yay!

That gets my super celebratory icon.

[mirandir.livejournal.com]

Good luck with the figuring. I've managed to get away with Dreamwidth so well mostly because I have a pretty small circle of friends to worry about.

[starwatcher]

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I'm starwatcher on DW. I've been reading you for awhile, in both places. I no longer remember why, but now I "know" your name, so plan to keep reading your LJ/DW.

Here's a post I made for my new friends, on the difference between 'subscribe' and 'grant access'. I hope it helps.
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