GIP. Or not quite.

[tzikeh]

Because, really, if anybody did it for the lulz....

But it also applies to this quote from the Freudian week of my literary criticism class:

"She (i.e. the representation of all young women, upon developing a sense of inferiority to males upon discovering that they have penises and she doesn't) decides her lack of a penis is the punishment for some wrongdoing (probably masturbation); she gets furious with her mother for not giving her a penis, and for not having one herself; she feels contempt for the entire female sex, herself included, which is without such an important organ. Also, she feels the clitoris to be so inferior that she gives up masturbation entirely (emphasis mine).

Yeah, that's exactly what happens.

Seems to me, women often masturbate for the opposite reason--feeling decidedly *superior* to men in that regard. "That was... really great! Uh... I'll see you later... I have some... shopping to do."

FOR THE LULZ

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[luminosity]

I don't have penis envy. I have penis SHAME. - Woody Allen

[tzikeh.livejournal.com]

I need a Woody Allen quote icon or three.

[luminosity]

I have a few quotes that are begging for icons:

Life is divided into the horrible and the miserable.
I am not afraid of death, I just don't want to be there when it happens.

And my favorite ever: I don't want to achieve immortality through my work. I want to achieve it through not dying.

[tzikeh.livejournal.com]

You can probably guess my favorite:

To you I'm an atheist; to God, I'm the Loyal Opposition.

[laurashapiro.livejournal.com]

Freud's epic fail continues to impress me. I'm reading The Feminine Mystique for the first time, and discovering that he was even more fucked up than I thought.

[tzikeh.livejournal.com]

Oh man, The Feminine Mystique was assigned for this AWESOME class I had in undergrad ("Paranoia in the Media in the '50s") and I will never forget reading it for the first time. I envy you your experience right now.

[laurashapiro.livejournal.com]

Heh. I've actually bogged down a bit; the part about Tennessee Williams and how overly feminine women create male homosexuality is pretty off-putting. Not to mention the overwhelming centralizing of whiteness and middle-classness.

But it's amazing even now, with all the reading I've done on feminism.

[ratcreature]

Yeah, I think there was some failed research right there. Especially since there's a major advantage for girls in an anti-masturbation climate, i.e. that they are much less likely to have to deal with any embarrassing incidents during puberty or parental censure. I've always felt kind of sorry when reading about teenage boys.

OTOH for the time it might have been a step forward to acknowledge that girls masturbate at all. Maybe grown women masturbating was even more scandalous, so that possibility had to be explained away?

[tzikeh.livejournal.com]

I've always felt kind of sorry when reading about teenage boys.

Yeah, it's gotta really suck to know that, at any given moment, you will need a short stack of books to carry around in front of you for an indeterminate period of time.

[ratcreature]

Though I never noticed any such cover strategies among my male classmates as a teenager, but probably that was because I've always been fairly oblivious. (I once failed to notice for about a month that a new guy inmy class had some sort of birth defect that meant he has only one regular sized arm, and with only three fingers on the hand too and just some small residual limb on the other side, until we were on the same volleyball team in PE and I had to watch him hit the ball while he wore a t-shirt -- I just thought he did some weird drape style thing with his jeans jacket for several weeks, because I never looked closely.)

[kelliem.livejournal.com]

she gets furious with her mother for not giving her a penis, and for not having one herself; she feels contempt for the entire female sex, herself included, which is without such an important organ. Also, she feels the clitoris to be so inferior that she gives up masturbation entirely

Why, yes, that's EXACTLY what happened to... ::snerk:: ::guffaw:: ::bwaahahhahhahahahahhahahahah!!!::

::koff:: Sorry, couldn't say that with a straight face.

[tzikeh.livejournal.com]

Why, yes, that's EXACTLY what happened to... ::snerk:: ::guffaw:: ::bwaahahhahhahahahahhahahahah!!!::

Totally my reaction. Oh Freud, how so hilarious?

[reginagiraffe]

Is there such a thing as lack-of-penis-envy envy? Because he sure had it!

[tzikeh.livejournal.com]

My head... it goes in circles...

[reginagiraffe]

Heh. I was just rereading Ces's Nature's Reversals and came across this:

"Then again I could do the emotional explanation — a life on the margins having led to a deep-seated need for security and structure, if only to resist against — feeling lost, needing a concrete role, a sense of belonging — having the desire to test the resiliency of my self-identity and my ideals in a hostile environment like the police force, blah, blah — I could probably even bring Freud into it, though in my experience he's best left out of it."

"Oh please leave Freud out of it," said Jim.

Synchronicity.

[sanj.livejournal.com]

I had one professor in developmental psychology who was a pretty rabid Freudian, but she would hedge every paean to Freud with "... except that the theory of penis envy is a streaming pile of bullshit."

One wacky man, our Golden Siggy. If you really want to throw a publication around the room while screaming, the case history of Anna O. is an excellent workout. :)

[tzikeh.livejournal.com]

If you really want to throw a publication around the room while screaming, the case history of Anna O. is an excellent workout. :)

They should create a version of this for the Wii. Especially since the Wii controller is nothing if not phallic, and even the *name*...

Yeah.

[kadymae.livejournal.com]

Thank you for my much needed post lunch laugh.

[tzikeh.livejournal.com]

Glad to oblige, even in my penis-less state.

[very-improbable.livejournal.com]

I like your icon. Somehow it makes me think of Heath Ledger's now-infamous actor journal for TDK (wherein he had a list of things the Joker would find funny, such as AIDS).

[delle.livejournal.com]

so... I'm mad at my MOM for not giving me the all-powerful penis - even though it's Dad that determined my gender - even though I'm NOT - even though my masturbation habits are not determined by my emotional situation with my mom - and I think my clitoris is inferior - even though I don't -

::boggle::

answer me this: did Freud ever know a woman? Or ask a WOMAN before he wrote this? (Yes, I know historically that a man did not discuss such things with a woman in this time period - however, if he's going to feel free to declare that ALL WOMEN FEEL THIS WAY, perhaps he should have checked his methodology (ie, stop talking out of HIS ASS))

[annezo.livejournal.com]

The only time I ever wanted a penis was when it was attached to some hot guy--and I wanted the rest of him, too.

Men have some stuff going for them, but I wouldn't trade multiple multiple-orgasm capacity for any of it.